Wednesday, November 21, 2007

Why DragonForce sucks like never before !

In response to my previous article about DragonForce, someone spotted my ignorance by saying : “find better guitar solos, YOU CANT!!!”. Infuriated, I searched in my CD collection for a better solo than anything DragonForce has ever recorded and, to my great disbelief, I actually couldn’t ! Nevertheless, I have listed at the end of this article some guitar soli that, though they can’t hold a candle to DragonForce's creativity, you may want to listen to, for, let’s say, your personal information... *giggle*

On a completely different matter, let’s have a little game for guitar players ! I know I sometimes sound like an arrogant arse and I wouldn’t like you to get too much of a negative opinion of me. So let's play together with something very different from my usual rant, a game called "the Joker" :
I’ve browsed a lot of Youtube stuff and picked up 2 videos of completely unknown guitar players, at random. Your mission, should you accept it, is to watch those 2 videos in their entirety (less than 5 minutes each) and find which one of the 2 guitar players is a total joke.

Since all my readers probably don’t share the same virtuosity level and/or theoric knowledge, here is a hint for the beginners : this joke of a guitar player does not only perform one of the cheapest and most boring pattern of swept arpeggio ever, he also has a sweep picking so far from perfection that you could play as good as he does within 2 weeks of practice. Enjoy !

Unknown guy #1 :

Unknown guy #2 :

I know it's kind of difficult, so it's okay to ask your guitar teacher or your friends to help you.

As promised, here are some soli that, as lame as they are, you may find decent :

Lynch Mob - Sweet Sister Mercy
Greg Howe - Divided World
Steve Stevens - Look in her Eyes
Brendt Allman - The Trees
Racer X - Lady killer (notice how the second solo sounds like Georges Lynch)
Extreme - Get the Funk Out
Dream Theater - Under a Glass Moon
Dokken - Kiss of Death
Steve Morse band - The Oz
Yngwie Malmsteen - Soldier without Faith
Steve Stevens - Atomic Playboys
Shawn Lane - So What (you can find some guy trying to play that lame solo here)
Eric Johnson - Venus Isle
Frank Gambale - Another Alternative (pretty long, due to a duel with the keyboard)


Blogger Laurie Monk said...

and find which one of the 2 guitar players is a total joke.

LOL... let me guess can't be the king of sweep, uncle Frank?

7:20 PM  
Blogger Miguel said...

Its ironic that you compare these 2 and talk bad about ibanez because as you probably already know frank played an S series. So maybe you can compare them...not!

11:20 PM  
Blogger Nox said...

Strangely enough, Frank changed for Yamaha, and so did Steve Lukather for Musicman, and so did John Petrucci for Musicman as well, and so would Steve Vai if he hadn't a contract of 50.000$ a year for playing on Ibanez...

Ibanez was a huge name in the 90's and they could provide guitars for everyone, so Ibanez was the good horse to ride. It was more a matter of business than guitar quality, and I know you know that too...

2:06 PM  
Blogger Death to Dragonfarce said...

Finally someone I can relate too! I completely agree with you on why Dragonforce sucks!

I'm 16 years old and believe it or not, I know what good music and good guitarists are. Guess what kind of guitar I play? Not an Ibanez, but a homebuilt Carvin neck-through guitar. It cost me the same ammount as a mid-priced RG and it is 10 times the guitar.

1:43 AM  
Blogger Carlos said...

Dream Theater has way better solos

9:35 PM  
Blogger Eric said...

funny how you guys r dissing Dragonforce and you can't do jack shit compared to them. It's the music that counts. If you don't like it, you don't have to. If you wanted death to Dragonforce, well death to the rest of you motherf*ck*rs

5:19 AM  
Blogger death metal hippy said...

hahahahaha try cris brodric, stevi via, joe satrionie, engey malinstiene, even dave mustain is better than dragon force. simple sweep picking. the only reason that they sound good is cause they speed the tracks up on there albums. thats right they cant even play that song in consert. its a fraud song. go listen to some children of bodem

12:14 AM  
Blogger death metal hippy said...

oh and sorry bout the spelling errors

1:01 AM  
Blogger Rafport said...

I was searching for good guitarist videos on youtube, and caught into a video called something like "dragonforce live sucks". I dont like very much their guitars, as i find parts and solos are without dynamics and expressivity and they abuse with speed missing the sense of the melody, anyway the world is great because is various and everyone has his taste. i was curious and annoyed, anyway, and i open the video... it really sucks and seem a joke. ehy man, it happens a terrible live performance. i open others (there are tons of dragonforce live sucks and similiars). i cannot trust it so i search dragonforce sucks on google and i caught here. there are live "animals" and people that play good just on studio, but i really cannot trust a serious guitaris and especially one that record so difficult (totally nonsense, anyway difficult) studio part is so ridicule in sweeping. it is a recorded studio video, so he can (and i guess did) many try for final video to publish in guitar television. is not a question to be precise or not precise, to be in the good moment or in the wrong moment, technique is learn in years and is based on the coordination and perfect control of both hands. if was an unknow guitarist finded on youtube, i would thinks "why before teach sweep to others don't you learn at first you?". i cannot trust this is a professional player, or he is same person who recorded song and not a clone. this has no sense, is impossible play in a good way (even i dont like) in a moment and just some time after has a ridicule and not live performance like that... this is a real joke. not necessary put gambale, johnson or anyonelse video to notice that. it is a mystery, to be a poor live performer is not sufficient to explain this sort of gag about how to sweep picking.

5:25 AM  
Blogger alejandro1313sixx said...

Dragonforce's solos are great! i also like lynche he is really good although he is a huge douchebag for ruining the badass band Dokken. And I also like Yngwie he is great although MICHEL ANGELO BATIO is better. back to the subject they have speed which is almost as important as technique and accuracy. Their solos are long which is also a good thing. Overall their soloing is preety good if not great thank you

10:31 AM  
Blogger Massimo said...

Hi. I hope you are still there to answer me.

I agree with your articles about Dragonforce and i think that there were a lot of dumbasses that needed this articles to open their eyes and make them stop talking nonsense about dragonforce players skills and wonderful guitar solos.

But you missed one point and it is the same point dragonboys are still missing.

They were able to write songs and to "talk" with their music. Of course they "talked" to people who really need to grow up, but actually they did and this is a huge difference between who plays and who masturbate his instrument and his audience's ears like Petrucci did in the last decade.

As Dragonboys are often little kids or big dumbasses they miss the point and they say hernan li is a guitar god, but i think you should show them both why they really suck and why they are not so bad to make them understand.

Actually i think that Dragonforce doesn't suck that bad. They are just extremely overrated by their fans (and of course i think that people older than 18 who listen to them is a dumbass)

2:00 PM  
Blogger Robert Patrick said...

@Massimo : I think you're perfectly right.Most of what I write here is half joking anyway. When I bash Dragonforce, it's true that I don't like their music, and it's true that you must know nothing of music if you think they're good guitar players and/or guitar gods. But at the same time they've been able to make music and records, something not everybody has accomplished, me included.
So yeah, I was actually bashing their fans more than the band itself ;-D.
I just think they're idolized way above their musicianship and technique level.

5:05 PM  
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7:12 PM  

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